(;FF[4]CA[utf-8]GM[1]SZ[19] GN[Tournament 2010 - EGC Open - Round 8 - Game 5] EV[European Championship 2010] PC[FI,Tampere] RO[8 (EGC Open)] DT[2010-08-05] PB[Kyeong-nang Kang]BR[7d]BT[KR] PW[Ali Jabarin]WR[5d]WT[IL] RE[W+R] KM[6.5] RU[japanese] TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi] ST[2] C[Shedal [2d\]: There's still no pairing for round 8 on the website... EuroGoTV1 [-\]: indeed, also waiting fatihsulak [-\]: good morning Shedal [2d\]: Morning... Il like how the morning light falls down to the goban and bowls on the video :) flashback [7d\]: ali is 6d now? :) sheeryjay [2k\]: Ali must win .. tell him that EuroGoTV1 ;) Shedal [2d\]: The only thing which composition lacks for the frame is couple of people ^^ Lukan [4d\]: Ali is 5.dan no? fatihsulak [-\]: betting for this board or second board? Shedal [2d\]: No Artem game today? :o Shedal [2d\]: I mean, translated one.. :( Sheeple [?\]: euro, you spelled w's name wrong EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe artem on board 2, i am only sure of Cristian Pop play white there and i guessed opponant would be Ilia sheeryjay [2k\]: Who will play Kim Junghyeop? sheeryjay [2k\]: ah ... you pre-paired them :D Shedal [2d\]: Harry, are you transcribing both boards? EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Live TV broadcast (+betting on the next move) of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV1 EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no betting on 2nd board Shedal [2d\]: 4 minutes before the beginning and still no pairings? :-) Sheeple [?\]: kim will probably play some 4d. sheeryjay [2k\]: Shedal, have you seen many real life tournaments? Sometimes pairings are made 1 hour after round should have started .. because players come late and do not announce if they play e.g. EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no players yet Shedal [2d\]: Umm, I've seen only Ukrainian internal tounemants, and I thought the pairings are made beforehand, and players should notify the administration at least half an hour before the beginning if they will not participate fatihsulak [-\]: serious tournaments it seems :) sayona [2k\]: Why ilia's game not board 1? falloutti [1d?\]: korea > alibaba eatramen [22k\]: lol hadlar [5d?\]: KANG!!! kang is gonna own dani fatihsulak [-\]: kang sos better ickypoo [2k\]: video feed? hadlar [5d?\]: kang is an epic name too. kang > ali Goreon [2d\]: 5d vs 7d... ickypoo [2k\]: kang-garoo hadlar [5d?\]: king kang hadlar [5d?\]: cause she redefines king IASIGOCUP [-\]: hello all IASIGOCUP [-\]: and GO GO ALI hadlar [5d?\]: pff hadlar [5d?\]: GO KANG falloutti [1d?\]: don't root for sultan ali baba NorthWind [5k\]: Kang fans are happy falloutti [1d?\]: yea falloutti [1d?\]: ali's fans are sad falloutti [1d?\]: depressed hadlar [5d?\]: kang is cool guy IASIGOCUP [-\]: and Ali, too eatramen [22k\]: guy? NorthWind [5k\]: guy ? lol IASIGOCUP [-\]: nice boy falientje [10k\]: she is a girl hadlar [5d?\]: i kno hadlar [5d?\]: but she's still a cool guy epoxygal [3k\]: wow there is advertisement now! cool eatramen [22k\]: someone was calling her king kang uesterday and i said u mean queen and he said no king eatramen [22k\]: *y hadlar [5d?\]: lol that was me littlebell [2k\]: start eatramen [22k\]: haha i thought the sentence structure was similar hadlar [5d?\]: haha littlebell [2k\]: plllleaseeeee hadlar [5d?\]: it can't start hadlar [5d?\]: they aren't even at the board yet kibord: stream still blocked for brasilians? kibord: ^^^^ forbidden [-\]: what time do they start? eatramen [22k\]: maybe ustream is blocked in brazil? hadlar [5d?\]: lol there was laughter in the background NorthWind [5k\]: when Ms Kang decides what to wear hadlar [5d?\]: lol hadlar [5d?\]: don't be so hard on kang kibord: well wasnt block.... hadlar [5d?\]: she's got a lot of responsibilities being the king kibord: now maybe permanent block littlebell [2k\]: b must be a korean eatramen [22k\]: she better take this tourney littlebell [2k\]: nad woman NorthWind [5k\]: not hard, we love Kang kurikuri [1d\]: what happened in her game against Alexander ? hadlar [5d?\]: ya i think she was a former korean insei kurikuri [1d\]: who won? eatramen [22k\]: she won hadlar [5d?\]: she beat break hadlar [5d?\]: cause break is n00b kurikuri [1d\]: nice kurikuri [1d\]: where can I see a replay of the game? eatramen [22k\]: you just saying that hadlar or u got proof that she was hadlar [5d?\]: i read it soemwhere eatramen [22k\]: ahh link? falientje [10k\]: yes she was a former korean insei hadlar [5d?\]: link? ok. www.google.com falientje [10k\]: just like jungheyop Excalibor [-\]: it was a weird game hirakawade [2d?\]: SEI de insei = pupil kibord: sen ren! hadlar [5d?\]: come to think of it i don't know anything about her style sheeryjay [2k\]: Shedal, you are correct, but well, people do not always behave as expected, come 30 minutes late because they overslept (ofc. they lose 30 mins of game time) etc. hadlar [5d?\]: i hope she's the aggressive fighting type hadlar [5d?\]: those are always fun NorthWind [5k\]: she plays quickly hadlar, maybe too quick Excalibor [-\]: board 1 almost always starts late on this Congress :) Shedal [2d\]: sheejay, I agree, but that should not affect pairings, I believe... eatramen [22k\]: north she thinks on her opponents time too Shedal [2d\]: *sheeryjay, sorry hadlar [5d?\]: since B is korean, W has no chance eatramen [22k\]: lol eatramen [22k\]: ali is good tho hadlar [5d?\]: meh hadlar [5d?\]: he's too bookish eatramen [22k\]: i see hadlar [5d?\]: results in weak reading Shedal [2d\]: W is jewish, B has no chance hadlar [5d?\]: plus sometimes W clings too much to keeping the balance of territory to the point where he doesn't deliver the finishing blow sheeryjay [2k\]: isn't being bookish good if one wants to teach others? :) jim [6d\]: Ali strong enough , he need a good day for making game interesting Am [5d\]: hello... Am [5d\]: what about paring of this round? who is playing another boards? (thx) hadlar [5d?\]: w reading is very spotty hadlar [5d?\]: i've seen him make 2k reading mistake before, and also i've seen him do some good sequences Shedal [2d\]: Am, actually it's not for sure about these boards either Shedal [2d\]: There are no pairings yet Am [5d\]: shedal, sure?! hadlar [5d?\]: so jim, you are right. it would have to be a good day for W to have a chance against king kang Goreon [2d\]: Kang must lose once more if Ilya wanna become european Champion, right? Shedal [2d\]: EuroGoTV said he guessed about Ilia playing the 2nd board falientje [10k\]: no kang cant be european champion Bazilikan [2k\]: is betting still not gonna be possible today? hadlar [5d?\]: kang can't be champ? hadlar [5d?\]: why not NorthWind [5k\]: I hope Artem wins the tourney. it would mean a lot to him I'm sure Am [5d\]: ilya have to play with cristian, as i see... falientje [10k\]: she can win the tournament, but the first european is european champion Shedal [2d\]: hadlar, she's not european, that's why ;-) hadlar [5d?\]: PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF hadlar [5d?\]: freaking lame hadlar [5d?\]: weak europeans won't let her win cause she owns them Am [5d\]: shedal, are u from fonland? Goreon [2d\]: kang can be open champion Am [5d\]: finland** hadlar [5d?\]: wait falloutti [1d?\]: Winland NorthWind [5k\]: no hadlar, just trying to find out who is the best European madkyu [5k?\]: me hadlar [5d?\]: so if a european wins the whole thing, they are european champion, but if a non-euro wins the whole thing, they are just open champion and the best place euro guy is the european champion? Shedal [2d\]: Am, no, I'm from Ukraine falientje [10k\]: yes Goreon [2d\]: nortwind it would mean a lot to anybody who tkaes part! hadlar [5d?\]: ... hadlar [5d?\]: i hope she wins then Shedal [2d\]: hadlar, are you not european? hadlar [5d?\]: no i'm american NorthWind [5k\]: yes Goreon but Artem has a real chance, others don't Goreon [2d\]: Ilya has hadlar [5d?\]: that's a ridiculous system that the winner can't be called the european champion even at the European Go Congress NorthWind [5k\]: Ilya already won it a few years back Goreon [2d\]: yes Goreon [2d\]: If artem wins he will be promoted to 7d automatically? eatramen [22k\]: JANG early! eatramen [22k\]: *KANG* hadlar [5d?\]: ah NorthWind [5k\]: no it's not ridiculous. Korea has enough recognition. be generous hadlar [5d?\]: she shows up in the stream engelchen [1d\]: weird an american dont know what euroean means happy9d [13k?\]: haha Ubiquitous [6k\]: when is this gonna start? hadlar [5d?\]: lol screw generousity hadlar [5d?\]: if you are the best, you deserve to be called the champ hadlar [5d?\]: if you are not the best, then stop complaining and work harder NorthWind [5k\]: best in what ? A1R [4k\]: now she is waiting xD eatramen [22k\]: i agree with hadkar hadlar [5d?\]: best at the EGC eatramen [22k\]: *l engelchen [1d\]: europeans means from europe hadlar [5d?\]: pff hadlar [5d?\]: then don't plaster the name all over the tournament and not give the title to the winner eatramen [22k\]: but its a tourney eatramen [22k\]: exactly Maki1 [2k\]: Kang pretty casual today, no glasses... 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