(;FF[4]CA[utf-8]GM[1]SZ[19]
GN[Tournament 2015 - Round 4 - Game 3]
EV[European Championship 2015]
PC[CZ,Liberec]
RO[4 (Championship)]
DT[2015-07-30]
PB[Ilja Shikshin]BR[1p]BT[RU]
PW[Dmitrij Surin]WR[6d]WT[RU]
RE[B+27.5]
KM[7.5]
RU[aga]
TM[9000]OT[3x60 byo-yomi]
ST[2]
C[tuquedenne [4d\]: if I'm right, if Ilja wins this game, the top (at european rating list) player with 2 victories will be qualified for the quarterfinals
gogonuts [4d\]: by rating list? ouch
gogonuts [4d\]: that's worse than pulling straws
gogonuts [4d\]: do you know how the 8 finalists will be paired?
tuquedenne [4d\]: yeah the system is quite strange this year
gogonuts [4d\]: by rating or by standing?
gogonuts [4d\]: or random?
snowy [1k\]: b+
tuquedenne [4d\]: well, it's just that the standing is done by: 1) number of victories 2) european rating list
EGC2015a [-\]: hello everyone
gogonuts [4d\]: ok, not much difference3
gogonuts [4d\]: :-)
tuquedenne [4d\]: and if Ilja wins there will be 7 players with 3 or 4 victories
tuquedenne [4d\]: not even a SOS, it's made to protect the top players :)
kmr [1d\]: McMahon is the first thing to protect those with high rating
tuquedenne [4d\]: of course
gogonuts [4d\]: but makes the game between artem and pavol more interesting if it can influence the pairing
miniyou: oi
kmr [1d\]: in chess tournaments there are much more players, and yet they dont need Mcmahon like systems
tuquedenne [4d\]: so, the top 8 pairing will be done by standing : 1-8, 2-7..., provided that they haven't played during the 4 first rounds
kmr [1d\]: its correct i think
tuquedenne [4d\]: like the 4 last years
tuquedenne [4d\]: the only thing is, the standing has been changed by those new rules :)
tuquedenne [4d\]: for instance if Ilja wins he's sure to be top player because he's higher than Pavol or Artem
kmr [1d\]: in wall list top group should be marked somehow, it would be much easier to read
jigsaw: will egc2015b cover arthem's match?
tuquedenne [4d\]: I agree kmr
kmr [1d\]: i agree with you agreement ;)
tuquedenne [4d\]: the top group is: Shikshin, Kachanovskyi, Lisy (3 victories), Lin, Surma, Fan, Dinerstein, Pop, Taranu, Debarre, Surin, Jabarin (2 victories), Kravets, Mitic, Silt, Le Calvé, Prokop, Dréan-Guénaizia, Burzo, Bajenaru, Simara, Sankin, Podpera, Mero
Hashishin [8k?\]: Roln is pro?? wow 
Hashishin [8k?\]: :D
kmr [1d\]: isnt Kreamer in top group too?
tuquedenne [4d\]: no he's not
tuquedenne [4d\]: I thought he (and Campagnie) was but they played asian players so they're not
kmr [1d\]: how he can have same McMahon score like Ilya then?!
kmr [1d\]: ah i c
kmr [1d\]: ok i know
kmr [1d\]: same McMahon score but not in top group to decide Eu Champ
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