(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
GN[Kedros cup - Jabarin Ali 1p (W) : Podpera Lukas 7d (B)]PW[Jabarin Ali]PB[Podpera Lukas]WR[1p]BR[7d]DT[2018-03-10]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[cp]
;W[pp]
;B[dc]
;W[pd]
;B[fp]
;W[de]
;B[qq]
;W[qp]
;B[pq]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: who bet on w?
]
;W[nq]
;B[nr]C[McMaster [-\]: where is this tourny held?
]
;W[mr]
;B[or]C[kmr [1d\]: Bratislava
Tsuyoi [2d\]: I feel like Lukas is only half a stone weaker than Ali so it should be a relative close game.
]
;W[mq]
;B[op]C[BratKedros [?\]: in 2nd round Lukas won against Pavol
]
;W[oq]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[rq]
;W[pn]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[mo]C[McMaster [-\]: thx kmr
]
;W[no]
;B[np]
;W[mp]
;B[nn]
;W[po]
;B[no]
;W[lo]
;B[nm]
;W[pk]C[kmr [1d\]: no problemo!
]
;B[km]
;W[ln]C[McMaster [-\]: Bratislava, the capital of Slovakia, is set along the Danube River by the border with Austria and Hungary. It’s surrounded by vineyards and the Little Carpathian mountains, 
]
;B[ml]C[McMaster [-\]: beautiful city
mr2cef [11k\]: way more cosy than vienna :D
]
;W[ip]
;B[qi]
;W[oj]
;B[qf]C[attach [7k\]: push and cut? 
]
;W[of]C[SiaTex [2k\]: too soon
attach [7k\]: p14 is preparation?
SiaTex [2k\]: black owes him a move there, so white just needs sente after this attack to cut there
]
;B[rk]
;W[lj]
;B[pl]
;W[ql]
;B[pm]
;W[rj]
;B[rl]C[leachy [1k\]: thanks for the context, McMaster ;)
]
;W[qj]
;B[qk]
;W[sk]
;B[qm]C[leachy [1k\]: w needs to prevent r16 i think
]
;W[pi]C[Oaktree [5k\]: black has a nice corner
leachy [1k\]: ah...seems he can't
]
;B[qc]
;W[qd]C[leachy [1k\]: hmm r17 instead...thought r16 was better
mr2cef [11k\]: why q11 instead of r16?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: gelato, say, how it feels to be 9d?
xDragon [?\]: Cause q11 is harder to deal with
leachy [1k\]: not sure exactly why q11 but because b would q11 peep and then try to run out, which might be difficult for white to deal with
]
;B[pc]
;W[rc]C[mr2cef [11k\]: ah, b coudl peep and run tanks 
leachy [1k\]: this is at least more certain but it feels like b is ahead in the game now
JIeBuc [5d?\]: not sure b has any tanks :D
]
;B[rb]
;W[rd]
;B[nc]C[mr2cef [11k\]: sorry for my bad spelling O_o
JIeBuc [5d?\]: i just kidding, dont worry about that
]
;W[od]C[xDragon [?\]: Strategically w had to play q11i believe, he can't tolerate becoming weak there
]
;B[mb]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: my english is even worse
Oaktree [5k\]: looking good for black
leachy [1k\]: difficult decision now for w
leachy [1k\]: too early for c3 i think
]
;W[cc]C[leachy [1k\]: i'd c17
JIeBuc [5d?\]: yea, i think pretty good for b
JIeBuc [5d?\]: at beast w and b on right-low have equal and low side is more or less same
JIeBuc [5d?\]: but then we look at top and its solid b`s group + stone
]
;B[ci]
;W[db]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]
;B[cd]
;W[bc]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: so, b had played without idea how to continue? Looks like he is checking that corner
]
;B[dd]
;W[fc]
;B[ce]C[darkronin [-\]: batman shape!
ThiGar [4k\]: w f16?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: f16 looks good
]
;W[cn]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: c8 c3 is quite common here
]
;B[co]C[Oaktree [5k\]: maybe they don't know that :-)
JIeBuc [5d?\]: nah, they just play some other ideas
Everest [3d\]: c5 is also common :p
Everest [3d\]: d6 c8 c3 you can still play C3
ThiGar [4k\]: instead of b c5, wouldn't b e10 (standard move to attack tentative white base at c9), gained a tempo?
Everest [3d\]: it doesn't attack white
leachy [1k\]: w doesn't have a base at c9...but can make happily one after e10
leachy [1k\]: *happily make
JIeBuc [5d?\]: there is big difference between such order?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: tho second one sounds better even for me
]
;W[cq]C[ThiGar [4k\]: sure leachy , but after b e10 and white base, b f16 is big
]
;B[dq]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: speaking honestly, i didnt except c3 here at all
leachy [1k\]: attack and defence is bigger than making frameworks
JIeBuc [5d?\]: maybe d3, but c3
Everest [3d\]: i excepted d6 and then c3
leachy [1k\]: it's not such a bad idea, thigar, just here there's more urgent things
ThiGar [4k\]: thx for clue, leachy
Everest [3d\]: artem played it recently against ali if i remember well
leachy [1k\]: if w makes the base with c9, your idea is a good one
]
;W[bn]C[leachy [1k\]: this looks less good than just c3 directly (without the c6 c5 exchange)
Everest [3d\]: for white you mean ?
leachy [1k\]: less good for w, right
kmr [1d\]: C3 i think is not to make life but to see how black will capture it
Everest [3d\]: of course, and you can keep some aji for later
leachy [1k\]: agains the c4/f4 corner, c3 just lives
]
;B[cl]C[leachy [1k\]: no idea how to coordinate the w stones now
kmr [1d\]: not for sure, black has option to drive out C3 into center
leachy [1k\]: just b3 b4 d2 to make life i guess
]
;W[bq]C[AlfGO [1d\]: b D2
]
;B[bp]C[AlfGO [1d\]: W e3
Weishenme [5d\]: d4 ?
]
;W[dr]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[fr]
;W[gq]
;B[fq]
;W[br]
;B[em]
;W[en]
;B[fn]
;W[dm]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: cant say b has big lead, but he is steadily moving to it
vinceuji [3k\]: ^^   I was just thinking that white was doing good in avoiding b influence to change into territory ^^
]
;B[eo]
;W[dl]
;B[ck]C[zmey [3k\]: I like B here
]
;W[el]
;B[fm]
;W[dj]
;B[di]
;W[ej]
;B[ir]C[Everest [3d\]: white managed well to destroy black's potentiel on the left side and now he will need to manage well on the bottom side and then he has a chance
JIeBuc [5d?\]: b had some potential?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: i thought that were few lonely stones
Everest [3d\]: thats why i called it "potential" ^^
Song17 [4d\]: w will have to get some attack sometime soon
]
;W[iq]C[Song17 [4d\]: d16's shape should be abused
JIeBuc [5d?\]: yea, but f16 isnt taken yet
Song17 [4d\]: I think capturing c9 will make it close
Song17 [4d\]: so the weakness there might be usefull in itself
]
;B[jo]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: was it proper timing for j2?
darkronin [-\]: surprise keima?
Everest [3d\]: i like this move
]
;W[hr]
;B[kp]C[Song17 [4d\]: the keima seems suspicious to me
Song17 [4d\]: feels thin
darkronin [-\]: you have to embrace the keima
hopeful [3k\]: or let keima embrace you
Song17 [4d\]: ...
hopeful [3k\]: this looks severe
Everest [3d\]: yup, but even if it is absolutly suspicious it's a funky move
]
;W[kq]
;B[lp]C[Herod [-\]: "When you have six groups, one of them is dead"
Song17 [4d\]: does look painful for w..
]
;W[io]C[leachy [1k\]: i count 5 groups for w
]
;B[jn]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: so next one gonna be dead?
Everest [3d\]: because q5 already dead
Song17 [4d\]: one's already dead...
]
;W[jp]
;B[lq]
;W[lr]
;B[ko]
;W[jr]C[Song17 [4d\]: helping w choose...
Song17 [4d\]: strange choice by b
hopeful [3k\]: m3 looked like aji keshi
Song17 [4d\]: if w had played m3 b would have k2 (with f1), or at least h1
]
;B[cj]C[Song17 [4d\]: so w would most likely play k2 anyway
]
;W[im]C[darkronin [-\]: d6?
Song17 [4d\]: yeah.. seems like decent timing for d6
darkronin [-\]: :D
Song17 [4d\]: w can't capture here anyway
vinceuji [3k\]: I don't see the choice time ?    black can't leave l5 to white, no?
Almanac [2d?\]: Why not?
Song17 [4d\]: m7 m8 l8 n7 
]
;B[hl]C[Song17 [4d\]: still painful to be forced ofc
Butcher [3k\]: w center promising
Song17 [4d\]: not really
Almanac [2d?\]: Doubtful
]
;W[lm]C[Almanac [2d?\]: Considering b6 status
]
;B[kl]
;W[ll]C[Song17 [4d\]: not much more than he already has
]
;B[kk]C[Song17 [4d\]: e10 really heavy
]
;W[lk]
;B[gi]C[Almanac [2d?\]: k6 seems just as heavy though
Almanac [2d?\]: Trade?
Song17 [4d\]: not as heavy..
Song17 [4d\]: also less attackable
leachy [1k\]: w goes from one crisis to the next
Everest [3d\]: white will need some magic tesuji her
Song17 [4d\]: not much choice, I think
Everest [3d\]: like h9 
hopeful [3k\]: k6 looks almost connected
Song17 [4d\]: but Ali can sometimes settle quite elegantly
pollux1: g9 is no tesuji but works
darkronin [-\]: so far the only elegant thing here was black's attack
leachy [1k\]: w h9 g9 and then what?
Everest [3d\]: play and think later
Everest [3d\]: :D
Everest [3d\]: j8 maybe
pollux1: w g9 b h9 w g10 b h10 w f11 and w will live
Everest [3d\]: a stone around f16 for white would be nice
]
;W[fi]
;B[fh]C[Song17 [4d\]: feels like the corner will have to be sacrificed
leachy [1k\]: not convinced w will live there, pollux but ok
Song17 [4d\]: or ko
]
;W[gj]
;B[hj]C[Everest [3d\]: white might also attack black soon, if he gets d6
Song17 [4d\]: d6 is interesting
]
;W[hi]
;B[gh]
;W[hk]
;B[ij]
;W[ik]C[Song17 [4d\]: question is if w can get an eye at b8
Everest [3d\]: thats a reason why d6 is very interesting
Almanac [2d?\]: Hmm
]
;B[gk]C[Everest [3d\]: i feel like black will die  i_i
JIeBuc [5d?\]: why?
Song17 [4d\]: looks more like w will
JIeBuc [5d?\]: even if w can cut, it looks like b has more libs
darkronin [-\]: i hope w dies
JIeBuc [5d?\]: so mean :D
darkronin [-\]: puny pro
]
;W[gl]
;B[fj]C[Song17 [4d\]: I think atari is necessary
Almanac [2d?\]: Isn't atari wasting liberties?
Everest [3d\]: f8 direct
Song17 [4d\]: but it's a potential eye
Gonewb [1d\]: f8 h6 ?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: not sure its possibly to live for both, so it might be final battle
Everest [3d\]: atari is bad, you lose the aji of hane k10 with the stone in h11
Song17 [4d\]: hm
Everest [3d\]: no ?
BratKedros [?\]: Ali in byo (3x30) Lukan 18m left
Song17 [4d\]: maybe
BratKedros [?\]: Ali 2x30
JIeBuc [5d?\]: f8 ?
]
;W[fk]C[Everest [3d\]: ah :p
Song17 [4d\]: :D
]
;B[gj]
;W[fl]C[Everest [3d\]: f8 h6 h7 j6 g7 g6 d9 alive 
Everest [3d\]: white is alive
JIeBuc [5d?\]: depends if b think h6 is enough
Terrapene [1k\]: d6 best b can do
ThiGar [4k\]: d6 great: lives and keeps sente
kendama [2k\]: b h7
vinceuji [3k\]: can't b j8 first ?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: sadly he has little time for thinking
BratKedros [?\]: B has 14 minutes
Terrapene [1k\]: j8, yes
JIeBuc [5d?\]: i mean w
become1d [1d\]: it's a nice tsumego
become1d [1d\]: black can calmy read
JIeBuc [5d?\]: im curious, do pro make timesuji moves?
kmr [1d\]: sure
kmr [1d\]: i witnessed some
]
;B[il]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: isnt it like accepting "weak" side in time managment?
]
;W[gm]
;B[dn]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: dunno, if i was pro, that probably could hurt my pride
JIeBuc [5d?\]: to do such move
Almanac [2d?\]: Pride doesn't one's stomach I guess
]
;W[hm]C[Almanac [2d?\]: doesn't fill one's stomach I mean
tymak [1d\]: right...."pro" mean you do it for money, not for fun, so timesujiis pretty ok
]
;B[fd]
;W[jl]
;B[kj]
;W[gd]
;B[gc]
;W[fb]
;B[ge]
;W[hd]
;B[he]C[Everest [3d\]: You can do it for both
]
;W[fe]
;B[ed]
;W[ie]
;B[id]
;W[hc]
;B[ic]
;W[hb]
;B[je]
;W[if]
;B[hg]
;W[af]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: saving m5 probably wasnt worth it
]
;B[bf]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: didnt*
]
;W[jf]
;B[ke]
;W[kf]
;B[le]
;W[ib]
;B[ne]
;W[ki]
;B[ji]
;W[kc]C[Butcher [3k\]: w need a miracle
]
;B[ok]
;W[sb]C[Song17 [4d\]: like killing this?
]
;B[ra]
;W[pj]
;B[nf]C[Butcher [3k\]: give up a limb and save the body
Javaness [1d\]: or give up
]
;W[oe]C[vinceuji [3k\]: ?????    really in danger ????
]
;B[nh]
;W[og]C[Javaness [1d\]: what's so bad about K16 
]
;B[jd]C[become1d [1d\]: c7 big
become1d [1d\]: but there is still urgent move
]
;W[lf]C[Weishenme [5d\]: w aiming N16
]
;B[mf]
;W[lh]C[Song17 [4d\]: n16 o16 and then?
afgani [3d\]: whos  winning?
]
;B[mh]C[Terrapene [1k\]: w
]
;W[nk]C[Song17 [4d\]: well.. b is leading
]
;B[om]C[Weishenme [5d\]: why b did not connect ?
Song17 [4d\]: oh, is this sente?
]
;W[li]C[Song17 [4d\]: painful
Song17 [4d\]: L18?
Weishenme [5d\]: c7 would be nice if  after M17 nothing on B's group
]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]
;B[lb]
;W[cm]C[BratKedros [?\]: both in byo
]
;B[ae]C[afgani [3d\]: looks like black has  a  clear lead
]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]C[afgani [3d\]: or is it  just me?
]
;W[ei]
;B[eh]C[Song17 [4d\]: w has better endgame.. (but that's because there's not much to take from w...)
]
;W[ak]
;B[bk]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[jc]
;B[sl]
;W[sj]
;B[oh]
;W[ph]C[afgani [3d\]: is it japanese  rules?
BratKedros [?\]: yes
]
;B[es]
;W[cs]
;B[ig]C[YoungPro [-\]: Who else did Lukas played except beating Pavol?
]
;W[lc]
;B[mc]C[tulip [1k\]: check BratKedros info
Song17 [4d\]: last chance?
Song17 [4d\]: is there something here?...
]
;W[nd]
;B[md]
;W[bl]
;B[aj]C[JIeBuc [5d?\]: se says b+14,5
]
;W[al]
;B[ol]
;W[nj]
;B[gp]C[Maslov [2d\]: Mb +4?
]
;W[jm]
;B[kn]
;W[ns]
;B[ps]
;W[jh]
;B[ih]
;W[ka]
;B[la]C[antagonist [?\]: se looks quite accurate this time
Terrapene [1k\]: p18?
JIeBuc [5d?\]: dont think 1p d make such mistake for something to work there
BratKedros [?\]: B+R
JIeBuc [5d?\]: thx
JIeBuc [5d?\]: gg
hopeful [3k\]: thx for the broadcast
BratKedros [?\]: thx for seeing
NoFuture [1k\]: Round 3 finished?
darkronin [-\]: When is next round?
])
