(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[20/300 Canadian]
GN[EWGC 2016 round 3 board 1]PW[Rita Pocsai]PB[Svetlana Shikshina]WR[4d]BR[3p]DT[2016-08-20]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: EWGC2016 round 3 Shikshina 3P (B)  - Pocsai 4D (W)
EWGC2016 [?\]: Main time:1h + Canadian byo-yomi= 20stones in 5 minutes
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[cn]
;W[fq]
;B[dc]
;W[ce]
;B[dg]
;W[ee]
;B[fd]
;W[di]
;B[bg]
;W[cl]
;B[fg]
;W[ef]
;B[eg]
;W[gf]
;B[ge]
;W[ff]
;B[cj]
;W[ci]
;B[bi]C[Grunman [4k\]: extra hard byo-yomi
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;W[dj]
;B[ck]
;W[dk]
;B[bl]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: and a bit confusing with the clocks it seems
Grunman [4k\]: could you tell the room of translation?
EWGC2016 [?\]: ?
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;W[bh]C[Grunman [4k\]: translations are not in the active games list
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;B[bj]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: translations?
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;W[ch]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: I'm not aware of anybody doing translations
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;B[cg]C[Grunman [4k\]: ok. demonstrations:)
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;W[ah]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: ah, they are not? hmm no idea I'm afraid
EWGC2016 [?\]: English room?
Grunman [4k\]: yeah, but at the bottom...
]
;B[dl]
;W[el]
;B[dm]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: yeah, how do you get them to the top?
Grunman [4k\]: nowhow. but now they are:)
EWGC2016 [?\]: ok, perfect :) thanks who or whatever did that :)
bolbi [-\]: you're welcome…
EWGC2016 [?\]: :)
Grunman [4k\]: ;)
Grunman [4k\]: now we know who can do that)
]
;W[gg]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: just ask an admin?
Grunman [4k\]: bolbi?
bolbi [-\]: but you are supposed to contact the admins before the event starts
bolbi [-\]: to write to*
EWGC2016 [?\]: ah, good to know for the future
EWGC2016 [?\]: tomorrow are round 4 and 5
bolbi [-\]: https://www.gokgs.com/help/faq/events.html
EWGC2016 [?\]: (y) thanks
]
;B[fi]C[darkronin [2k?\]: very satisfying one-space-jump
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;W[gj]
;B[gi]C[gfzhkgko: i withe satisfyed too
gfzhkgko: think
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;W[hi]
;B[fj]
;W[fk]
;B[hh]C[Nerin [3k?\]: b's cut off?
Epithany [5k\]: W G12?
Nerin [3k?\]: I suppose so
]
;W[hj]
;B[gh]
;W[if]
;B[jh]
;W[he]C[Jonsoncao [4k\]: ...dude you are 3k...
WinPooh [3k\]: How strong is W?
EWGC2016 [?\]: 4D
]
;B[ii]C[Nerin [3k?\]: why not showing players' name around/on the board like pandago does?
sinojos [7k?\]: cuz this aint pandago
enob [10k\]: this is an amazing joseki
Nerin [3k?\]: odd
]
;W[jk]C[Nerin [3k?\]: kgs client is odd
EWGC2016 [?\]: it should have the names at the top though
enob [10k\]: yes, much better than pandanet
sinojos [7k?\]: only if you expect a volkswagon to behave live a girraffe ;-)
Nerin [3k?\]: :)
]
;B[cd]
;W[be]C[WinPooh [3k\]: In mobile client I can't scroll the moves
darkronin [2k?\]: but you can 1) go to archives 2) use another sgf viewer to see the ongoing Demo :-)
]
;B[hc]C[sinojos [7k?\]: to scroll need to clone or view offline. same with desktop
enob [10k\]: q4 
badkitty [5k\]: fight prolly more important than lr corner
Burton [6k\]: why is this game being broadcast on two boards
polubola: rita svetlana and natalia are the huge favorites and then there is nobody for a while, right?
]
;W[pp]C[polubola: so it could be a double shikshin european championship year
EWGC2016 [?\]: Rita Pocsai isn't too far of with 4d
sinojos [7k?\]: @burton, two different games
Burton [6k\]: hmmm sorry
Burton [6k\]: thanks
]
;B[qn]C[enob [10k\]: well, gues I was correct this time
gfzhkgko: rita is the last champion
badkitty [5k\]: yep and i wasnt
polubola: ewgc, thats why I mentioned her ;-)
]
;W[np]
;B[pj]C[miao [6d\]: i like white
sinojos [7k?\]: E15 better put on its running shoes
]
;W[fn]C[gfzhkgko: is here anybody from the czech go camp?
]
;B[kf]
;W[ic]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: polubola, seems I read too fast :)
]
;B[ib]C[polubola: is there a homepage or video or so?
EWGC2016 [?\]: no
EWGC2016 [?\]: schedule is on www.gofed.be, but that's about it
polubola: so you already have a goal for next year ;-)
litchee [-\]: hello, where can we find the full list of participants ?
]
;W[jc]
;B[hd]
;W[je]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: gofed.be, but it hasn't been updated since registration opened on Friday, so it's not entirely correct
polubola: how many are playing and where?
EWGC2016 [?\]: 16 participants, in Antwerp Belgium
]
;B[ld]C[polubola: you should have called harry for a livefeed
EWGC2016 [?\]: level range between 10k an 3p averaging around 2d
polubola: 10k vs 3p must be fun
polubola: how many rounds?
EWGC2016 [?\]: :) doubt they will play
EWGC2016 [?\]: 5
]
;W[om]C[polubola: but the byo yomi is really brutal, why?
EWGC2016 [?\]: 2 more tomorrow
Nerin [3k?\]: tenuki?!
EWGC2016 [?\]: it's the same as last year I think
]
;B[af]C[polubola: I guess most of the games have a clear favorite so that much more time would not change anything
JIeBuc [7d?\]: w made so many troubles
JIeBuc [7d?\]: has to protect j16 and at the same time make 2 eyes
Thundergod [6d\]: j16 is nothing no?
JIeBuc [7d?\]: who knows
Nerin [3k?\]: something than nothing
Thundergod [6d\]: j16 j13?
JIeBuc [7d?\]: yea, but its half weak point
Thundergod [6d\]: But not an eye anyway so kinda irrelevant
polubola: m17 ?
Nerin [3k?\]: must be a gote to make a life
]
;W[lc]C[goBum [?\]: is there a video? xD
polubola: b can premove h13 ?
jv [2d\]: gote life is fine though
Nerin [3k?\]: and then b takes big advantage
JIeBuc [7d?\]: w tried to make sente live
goBum [?\]: or commentary
jv [2d\]: W took p7 already
jv [2d\]: so there isnt any loss in gote
]
;B[mc]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: no video, no special live commentary either
bert [?\]: sry, what happened in BGA game? b won?
JIeBuc [7d?\]: only kgs kibitz
polubola: yes
polubola: b+r
bert [?\]: thx
goBum [?\]: omg
goBum [?\]: that w group
JIeBuc [7d?\]: i think w had to play a13 
polubola: m15?
JIeBuc [7d?\]: its slow, yea
JIeBuc [7d?\]: but b gains anyway
badkitty [5k\]: l16 any good?
Hexan [1k?\]: do understand p7 but to me it was overplay
]
;W[kd]C[Nerin [3k?\]: J16 sente
polubola: you only play p7 when you have everything checked to be alive anyway
jv [2d\]: or if you need more
afgani [3d\]: is b the sister of ilya shikshin?
jv [2d\]: and the L/D is undetermined
]
;B[le]C[polubola: yes
jv [2d\]: sometimes you have to just take a risk for more points
afgani [3d\]: are their parents also pros?
polubola: but sometimes less is more
jv [2d\]: because a13/a14 are moves you actually want your opponent to play
guest997: J16?
badkitty [5k\]: w looks alive 
jv [2d\]: probably at this level they can read the LD though
]
;W[id]C[guest997: what did I win? 
badkitty [5k\]: a round of applause
guest997: cool
sinojos [7k?\]: a round of applesause for the house
]
;B[gk]C[polubola: h9 and connect
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;W[gl]
;B[hk]
;W[ij]
;B[gq]C[bert [?\]: shikshin moves
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;W[fp]C[ftroiset [1k\]: something like j3 is only w chance (very slim)
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;B[fr]
;W[iq]C[JIeBuc [7d?\]: its not like w has really good chance to win
JIeBuc [7d?\]: tho good oppotinuty to play
pewpewchan [?\]: B is the sister of Ilya for whoever asked that earlier on 
pewpewchan [?\]: Hey Joost, doet da goed e :D
]
;B[hl]
;W[gm]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: (y)
pewpewchan [?\]: veilig thuis enzo :D 
EWGC2016 [?\]: mooi zo, merci e voor de hulp
]
;B[hq]
;W[ir]C[pewpewchan [?\]: graag gedaan :) spijtig dat ik er ni bij zal zijn voor de review :(
pewpewchan [?\]: keep up the good work :)
EWGC2016 [?\]: will do
guest997: zit er nog een bepaalde gedachte achter je naam: pewpewchan?
]
;B[ip]C[pewpewchan [?\]: I pew pew, does that explain enough? 
pewpewchan [?\]: it's a name for people with not a lot of imagination, that's me in a nutshell 
guest997: aha, oke
guest997: ik weet niet of ik het dan veel beter doe
pewpewchan [?\]: een naam als "guest 997" ... dunno 
]
;W[hp]C[pewpewchan [?\]: who knows next move for black? 
pewpewchan [?\]: anyone wants to take a guess? 
miao [6d\]: r3
miao [6d\]: :)
stengl [3k\]: c3
ftroiset [1k\]: g4
pewpewchan [?\]: haha :) sure why not
]
;B[jj]
;W[ik]C[Grunman [4k\]: isn't q8 better than r3?
]
;B[kk]C[goBum [?\]: oooo nice
EWGC2016 [?\]: sorry to disapoint all guessers :)
pewpewchan [?\]: :o
miao [6d\]: well
miao [6d\]: yeah
miao [6d\]: that was big
]
;W[im]C[pewpewchan [?\]: minds... blown 
]
;B[kl]C[pewpewchan [?\]: blood all over the wall 
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;W[jm]C[goBum [?\]: ouchie
guest997: and still a ko lingering at m18
pewpewchan [?\]: and now r3? :p
]
;B[pl]C[pewpewchan [?\]: ah turn into profit I see
]
;W[kj]C[goBum [?\]: ticking time bomb ko :o
]
;B[ji]C[goBum [?\]: ah no w is alive
badkitty [5k\]: w invade s16 or so?
]
;W[nk]
;B[lj]C[pewpewchan [?\]: or s15? 
miao [6d\]: r14 r1 r12?
]
;W[qd]C[miao [6d\]: r14 r15 r12
miao [6d\]: oh
badkitty [5k\]: off by 1
miao [6d\]: maybe a bit small
pewpewchan [?\]: r 16 
miao [6d\]: off by 2
pewpewchan [?\]: meh, you had the "r" correct at least
miao [6d\]: :)
]
;B[qe]C[zooloo: how do you deal with r16 ? 
miao [6d\]: like this
pewpewchan [?\]: you're about to observe
awesome [3k\]: you hane :)
miao [6d\]: give some corner
badkitty [5k\]: you gotta give something up
mihi [?\]: miao if you were to choose between M6 and C4 which one would you play
mihi [?\]: ?
badkitty [5k\]: apparently the corner in this case
miao [6d\]: hm
miao [6d\]: good question mihi
mihi [?\]: as w I mean 
]
;W[qc]
;B[re]C[pewpewchan [?\]: c4 no? 
byiu [5k\]: should w  O11 ? i'm trying to guess the next point of interest ?
]
;W[ob]
;B[lb]C[miao [6d\]: i would maybe play n7
mihi [?\]: ok actually 2 corners open so it changes a bit the situation
awesome [3k\]: w b4 kind of huge?
gfzhkgko: ewgc can you tell me the time of the players?
mihi [?\]: I think I would play center, than one of the 2 corners 
miao [6d\]: beause m6 n7 aji
miao [6d\]: yes
]
;W[kc]C[miao [6d\]: corners are not too big here
miao [6d\]: s4 might be the bigger one though
pewpewchan [?\]: then give me ssome corner :)
pewpewchan [?\]: agreed 
guest997: H13 now kill?
mihi [?\]: yeah...even if w plays c4, I think there is some aji 
zooloo: h13 h14 k14 no ? 
mihi [?\]: la B3 
mihi [?\]: even if w B4 ,still some aji
miao [6d\]: it is not about aji
SiaTex [3k?\]: h13 h14 k14 ?
miao [6d\]: but also about follow up
miao [6d\]: and points
goBum [?\]: whats this about :O
mihi [?\]: wait..is w alive like this?
awesome [3k\]: yes s4 better follow up
pewpewchan [?\]: I'm sorry SiaTex but I find your name confusing
goBum [?\]: i dont know
goBum [?\]: is it?
SiaTex [3k?\]: lol why?
]
;B[nb]C[EWGC2016 [?\]: Rita entered byo-yomi
Hellhuman [2d?\]: What does ewgc stand for?
miao [6d\]: hm
pewpewchan [?\]: erm.. nothing in particular
Hellhuman [2d?\]: european women go championship?
miao [6d\]: euro women championship
pewpewchan [?\]: european women go championship
Hellhuman [2d?\]: Thanks
mihi [?\]: H13?
]
;W[hg]C[mihi [?\]: she might go for some ko later
pewpewchan [?\]: because apparently women need their own championships 
goBum [?\]: sure?
Hexan [1k?\]: why r16
pewpewchan [?\]: maybe because their thought patterns are inferior to men... just guessing 
miao [6d\]: o11?
Hellhuman [2d?\]: pewpewchan there are some admins here that might ban you for that :x
awesome [3k\]: there should be separate championships for various in-between genders too
miao [6d\]: or b16 chicken move
miao [6d\]: :)
]
;B[km]C[miao [6d\]: or l7 shikshin style
EWGC2016 [?\]: don t start flaming pew
pewpewchan [?\]: if they would, they should take an intensive course of sarcasm in my school of syicism 
pewpewchan [?\]: synicism
pewpewchan [?\]: damn that's a difficult word to spell out 
Goyer [?\]: what are the results of Elvina ?
pewpewchan [?\]: Elvina plays for? 
pewpewchan [?\]: Goyer? 
miao [6d\]: where are results?
pewpewchan [?\]: dunno, but I know some of them, I just came home from there :p
]
;W[rd]C[awesome [3k\]: l7 so strong and destructive
]
;B[pb]
;W[pc]
;B[oc]
;W[od]
;B[oa]C[Goyer [?\]: Elvina is russian
]
;W[pe]
;B[qg]
;W[pg]C[pewpewchan [?\]: then she's not participating 
pewpewchan [?\]: I think
Goyer [?\]: she is for sure
EWGC2016 [?\]: She is
pewpewchan [?\]: wopsy 
EWGC2016 [?\]: don t know her reasults
pewpewchan [?\]: ik weet ni wie dat is :)
]
;B[qh]
;W[ng]C[pewpewchan [?\]: I wouldn't know her results either
EWGC2016 [?\]: will have to ask
pewpewchan [?\]: but she's russian so, probably pretty good, no? :)
Goyer [?\]: yes, please.... must be good
]
;B[oh]
;W[nh]
;B[ni]C[pewpewchan [?\]: I'm asking someone right now
pewpewchan [?\]: just a sec
]
;W[mi]C[Grunman [4k\]: wasn't it better to lock white in the corner?
]
;B[nj]
;W[ne]C[miao [6d\]: w will die
Goyer [?\]: agree
]
;B[mf]C[awesome [3k\]: die and resign
]
;W[lg]C[miao [6d\]: n16
badkitty [5k\]: 5k says w gonna live who u believe? :)
nimbim [2k\]: locking white in would be the reasonable play
miao [6d\]: black should be more careful
nimbim [2k\]: killing is extra points
byiu [5k\]: k13 looks mandatory
]
;B[nf]C[byiu [5k\]: 14*
]
;W[md]C[nimbim [2k\]: k14 j13 miai
awesome [3k\]: then w l18 and ko?
miao [6d\]: white managed
miao [6d\]: b very unprecise
First [1k\]: is w a pro?
miao [6d\]: yes
byiu [5k\]: how could I miss that, thanks nimbim
miao [6d\]: ah no
pewpewchan [?\]: yes w is pro
miao [6d\]: b is 
pewpewchan [?\]: b is 
pewpewchan [?\]: argh grmbl.. 
EWGC2016 [?\]: b s fingers leaving the stones a bit cautiously
]
;B[nc]
;W[of]C[miao [6d\]: poor b
miao [6d\]: got overplayed
]
;B[nd]
;W[ph]
;B[pi]
;W[mg]C[miao [6d\]: oh?
noby: not clear yet
EWGC2016 [?\]: w 30 sec left and 5 stones
Nerin [3k?\]: L13
miao [6d\]: k13 first looks much better
]
;B[kg]
;W[lf]
;B[me]
;W[ke]
;B[oe]C[miao [6d\]: but weill
miao [6d\]: still ko
]
;W[mj]
;B[mk]
;W[li]
;B[ki]C[miao [6d\]: eh
]
;W[ne]C[miao [6d\]: that was a threat
]
;B[md]C[miao [6d\]: r18
myushkin [3k?\]: w dead, no?
awesome [3k\]: r18 m12?
byiu [5k\]: not worth the threat if w was 30 sec left for 5 moves
Nerin [3k?\]: only one eye
goBum [?\]: 1 eye
]
;W[lh]C[miao [6d\]: wow
myushkin [3k?\]: s18?
miao [6d\]: didn´t see this
miao [6d\]: k12 is a threat
goBum [?\]: s18?
]
;B[rb]C[miao [6d\]: ver nice ko
goBum [?\]: k13
riusuke [1k\]: K13 for w?
]
;W[jg]
;B[kh]C[awesome [3k\]: all right!
]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]C[Hexan [1k?\]: nice ko
]
;W[ml]C[awesome [3k\]: nice game
awesome [3k\]: so big...
Hexan [1k?\]: all or nothing
]
;B[jf]C[miao [6d\]: oh
]
;W[lk]C[byiu [5k\]: didn't risk it :D
miao [6d\]: lol
awesome [3k\]: who is ahead?
miao [6d\]: l16 is dead
goBum [?\]: but w dead?
bert [?\]: yup
Hexan [1k?\]: perfectly handled by white
]
;B[kj]C[miao [6d\]: l12 also not
bert [?\]: lol
]
;W[eh]C[awesome [3k\]: rita stong
]
;B[fh]C[byiu [5k\]: black looks ahead but I don't know the timer
miao [6d\]: but liberties are not looking too well
miao [6d\]: d15
]
;W[kn]
;B[ll]
;W[mk]
;B[ln]
;W[ko]C[miao [6d\]: what
]
;B[lo]C[goBum [?\]: whats happening?
]
;W[mm]C[First [1k\]: w is killing
miao [6d\]: miao is wondering
]
;B[lm]
;W[lp]C[miao [6d\]: l4 worked
Goyer [?\]: interesting!
miao [6d\]: l4 still  wokrs
]
;B[mp]C[rhey5y: probably not Ruta is strong but Stetlana is weak
]
;W[kp]C[gfzhkgko: come on man Rita is the title defender
Shibe [2k\]: what's the tournament
EWGC2016 [?\]: some frowning, nail biting and face-rubbing going on, stressful
Hexan [1k?\]: game over
pewpewchan [?\]: Shishina is not weak... 
pewpewchan [?\]: neither is Rita 
Shibe [2k\]: does that mean rita is underanked?
pewpewchan [?\]: and the tournament is the European Women Go Championship (EWGC)
Shibe [2k\]: thanks
bert [?\]: o5 n3 p6 
]
;B[de]C[First [1k\]: w will win this race
pewpewchan [?\]: could it not also mean black made a mistake
bensenseii [-\]: Well b missed l4
noby: w dead
noby: w 5 libs vs b's 6 libs
rhey5y: tbh Svetlana not even playing on 1p
pewpewchan [?\]: you haven't seen her previous matches rhey
pewpewchan [?\]: it's the third one of the day 
goBum [?\]: who
]
;W[df]
;B[dd]C[qwertu [?\]: yeah you guys are so rude
]
;W[cf]C[gfzhkgko: come on do semo respect
gfzhkgko: same
]
;B[bd]
;W[ae]C[goBum [?\]: a16
sagesse [-\]: how is w winning this?
sagesse [-\]: it seems like w loses the capturing race
wade [5d\]: she doesnt :(
]
;B[ed]
;W[jb]
;B[hb]
;W[ej]C[myushkin [3k?\]: b14? 
]
;B[ad]C[Grunman [4k\]: why semeai if b can run?
EWGC2016 [?\]: B +R
bert [?\]: ty
awesome [3k\]: will svetlana be champion?
goBum [?\]: gg
First [1k\]: b actually won?
First [1k\]: but how
goBum [?\]: hmm
awesome [3k\]: it' s genetic
goBum [?\]: thats your go lesson for today :)
sagesse [-\]: black has many more liberties
nimbim [2k\]: just 1 i think?
awesome [3k\]: that' s many enough
poiuytre: who won?
nahual [2k\]: 3p
byiu [5k\]: B+resign ?
EWGC2016 [?\]: B ( Svetlana Shikshina)
poiuytre: thx
gfzhkgko: that was a great game thank you ewgc
EWGC2016 [?\]: thanks for watching :)
nimbim [2k\]: great game indeed
WeiqiMa [3k\]: thank you for broadcasting.
EWGC2016 [?\]: ok, that's it for today, broadcasting-wise;
EWGC2016 [?\]: tomorrow the first round starts at 10 am
Meloe [-\]: what  time tomorrow please ?
Meloe [-\]: ty
EWGC2016 [?\]: 10 am and second round will start at  2 pm
EWGC2016 [?\]: see you all
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